You can consider yourself as just a trusted user with the ability to clean up undesirable posts. --- NOTES FROM HEYURI --- FROM REPLY No.49197 IN THREAD No.48982 CONTEXT: Thread was talking about /b/ being filled with porn. >sure, and look where /b/ is now. It's JUST porn, with one or two regular threads. There is a reason nobody uses /b/ anymore. That's cuz 4/b/ became overloaded with a couple orders of magnitude more users than was optimal. The older users left or fled to other existing boards like /a/ and /v/, and moot & his merry band of faggots went and created an assload of additional boards - including several "I can't /b/elieve it's not /b/!" boards - which all contributed to making /b/ redundant for virtually everything. All /b/ could do at that point was devolve into 4chan's n00b containment board Once "The Fappening" happened, and all the subsequent legal crackdowns on "leaked nudes" and "revenge porn" in many places in the world and across the net, /b/ attracted a crowd who are there exclusively for that type of material, and they are the majority of 4/b/'s remaining (and dwindling) users today FROM REPLY No.63523 IN THREAD No.62857 CONTEXT: Anon-san recommends porn being contained within a subject rather than it's own thread. 50701-san is a no-text post of an old man's dick. 50701-san is using Heyuri correctly! "X containment" or "Y general" type threads break Rule 6 - making new threads for new topics/images is highly encouraged over grouping everything that falls under a broad category (like "porn") into a single thread The golden rule is that if it's unrelated or only tangentially-related to a thread OP or a reply, you should post it to the board as a new thread. "Porn General" = no good, "Boobs Thread" = acceptable, "[single image from a particular set/series cuz u want to share/discuss that particular image, posting the rest of that set/series in the form of replies if desired]" = best and how Heyuri is intended to be used FROM REPLY No.63530 IN THREAD No. 62857 CONTEXT: Anon-san is worried about Heyuri /b/ turning into 4chan /b/ with the porn. This thread links No.49197 Stuff liek random vertical iphone solo videos, social media n00dz, etc. have traditionally been baleeted or autosage'd anyway, unless there's something particularly notable/funny about them For reference, the kinds of pr0ns that have always been allowed and desired on Heyuri is stuff liek Japanese gravure/AV, bizarre/LOLworthy "eFukt" type material, 2000s & retro material, hawt cosplay, etc. FROM THREAD No. 62857 CONTEXT: A new janitor (pez) accidentally deleted a good amount of posts from Strange World after trying to delete some spam. REPLY No. 63568 I was removing a lot of spam and now regular posts also disapears. I only deleted all those 100+ spam... REPLY No. 63569 Don't carelessly delete everyone's posts from Strange World please - including mine sweat3 Assuming it was unintentional, refreshing the deletion page after deleting previous posts will re-delete any new ones coming in the use the same post numbers - it's not like imageboards where if post 1000 is deleted, the next post will be 1001 no matter what, instead there will simply be a new post 1000 Example: if you delete post 7500, 7501, and 7502, then somebody makes a new post 7500 and 7501, AND THEN you refresh the deletion page, it will delete the new 7500 and 7501. You have to close the page and log back into it to prevent that FROM REPLY No. 63608 IN THREAD No. 63593 Since there are new staff-san enforcing it, and several users making a lot of assumptions about it in recent months, I think it's a good time to reaffirm what Rule 8 is and why it exists Rule 8 is primarily intended to keep out (roughly) 2008+ Western internet culture - whether it's 4chan, 8chan, Tumblr, Reddit, Twitch, iFunny, or wherever - particularly when it's something commonly used for trolling, derailing, insulting, or instigating flame wars It's purpose is 1. to allow Heyuri to be its own thing and cultivate a culture of creativity, and 2. to keep the eternally grumpy and shitstirring kinds of "anons" away, so we can better enjoy our LOLs and discussions without Heyuri becoming yet another neverending internet bitchfest, or becoming a semi-abandoned shithole where every other post is just the word "nigger" with a Pepe reaction image dark It is not a rule against "everything new" nor "things I personally don't liek". You can discuss new things on Heyuri, and Heyuri does not ban entire niches and fields of interest just because they are "new" or are unpopular with the users of other websites - especially if those things are Japanese in origin I'd also like to explain Rule 8.d specifically, since it's frequently incorrectly invoked by n00bs these days and could do with being rewritten (again...) Firstly, back in 2020 it simply said "Ironic shitposting.", and by 2021 it said "Shitposting & and "nu-irony".". Then in 2022 - due to a lot of our n00bs at that time not knowing what shitposting nor ironic shitposting were (which they shouldn't be expected to know, since they're borderline Rule 8 to begin with) - it was changed to it's current form of "Posts intended to annoy or enrage other users without even having the decency to provide LOLs ー most of "nu-4chan" kind of posts fall under this point." Basically, it was our attempt at saying "ironic shitposting" without saying "ironic shitposting" xd So rather than it being a rule against things you are offended by, or against users joking around, it was supposed to be targetting things like the old "WHATA FUCK MAN xD i just fall of my chair kuz i couldnt and i CANT stop laugh xDXDXDXDXDDDDDDDDDDDDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD" and "t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!!" copypastas, generic "HURR DURR" responses, etc. that completely took over and ruined many threads on 4chan and other places in the late 2000s and early 2010s, killing off much of the fun-oriented internet culture of old that Heyuri sought to revive and embrace FROM THREAD No. 64706 CONTEXT: (personal) mishap of listening to the first reply in regards to a reply that had the word "tranny" with a video of someone having sex. This reply was in a post about an anon having aids. The reply basically was saying "did you get it from having sex with a tranny?" A report was made about it violating the rule 7, which banned discussions about trans stuff. I asked the replier on if it meant actual discussions or mere mentions, which is when the replier said it was done after mentioning trans stuff. I assumed that to be mentioning, and then deleted the tranny reply. This thread is a response to that report thread. REPLY No. 64706 Not sure why this /q/ thread was baleeted - in my opinion it shouldn't have been. Anyway, here's the reply I wanted to make to it: Rule 7 is basically the "don't devolve into modern-day /pol/ or Twitter when it comes to controversial political/social topics" rule. Earlier this year, there was a big increase in the amount of times "tranny" was being thrown about and used to troll/bait (in both directions), so we decided to clamp down on it It's not that it can't be mentioned entirely, nor that u can't post ur hawt meatspin pr0nz - it's just that any kind of post-2014 style arguments/debates/trolling/"pinkpilling"/needlessly-slipping-mentions-of-it-into-everything/etc. are B&, and less leniency will be shown compared to other political/social topics (where we let a lot of things slide until things go seriously awry) Regarding what happened in 64704-san's screencap - User A said their favorite game was Fallout New Vegas, and User B replied by calling them a tranny. That's Rule 7, but also Rule 8 due to it apparently being a meme on certain fail websites Also, friendly reminder to n00b mods: if the action to take isn't clear, or you have any doubts at all, it's best to leave it alone for somebody else to deal with. Definitely don't just listen to the first reply you get on /q/ about it and start baleeting things sweat2 REPLY No. 64707 Ah, I see! I'm so sorry!!! (;´Д`) (;´Д`) (;´Д`) I was a bit unsure about the report myself, but I was also a bit torn about leaving the post alone if it really was rule-breaking. I felt as though urgency was better than accuracy, which shows how much of a noob I really am (´～`) REPLY No. 64709 a post that is left alone can be deleted later, but a post that is deleted is gone forever... that is why it is best to leave it alone if you are unsure. （ ´,_ゝ`） FROM THREAD No. 64834 CONTEXT: Post from /b/ had a pic of george floyd with the text "Did you know that Heyuri day (May 24th, 2020), is also the same day george floyd died?". I asked if it was rule 8. REPLY No. 64836 I don't think it breaks Rule 8. Maybe a case could be made that the image is R8 by virtue of it being a popular image to b8 people with on 4chan, so the course of action would be to delete the file. Taking it at face value, the post is just making a connection between one fact to another. If it was intended as flame bait, then it failed hard. That might be owed to the maturity of our users than anything else, or the fact that there's been less activity today. Maybe... all of this is just a massive leap in logic compared to what OP intended. I'm leaving it as it is until the head mod weighs in. This is more his territory. REPLY No. 64837 (MOD-SAN) Not rule breaking! It would only break Rule 7 if OP was seriously worked up or extremist over a social/political issue and/or acting like /pol/ / Twitter, and it would only break Rule 8 if they were posting/referencing lame nu-4chan/internet memes along with it For reference (since it doesn't happen often), here's a thread from early Heyuri that eventually got baleeted for Rule 7: https://archive.is/99y9C (CONTEXT: wall of text about naz-bols..?) FROM THREAD No. 65390 CONTEXT: Certain threads were deleted. REPLY No. 65394 I wish you guys would be more trustful of users of this site. If a thread sucks like you said, then naturally it wouldn't receive any bumps, no need to autosage or remove it. REPLY No. 65395 those threads would have been self-bumped, so ignoring them would have left them on teh front page for quite some time. I don't believe self-bumps are disabled on heyuri, so autosage is needed if they are to be cleared away without outright deleting them. and when it comes to trust, it is not so simple as being hands-off. when running a small site that's focused on maintaining a certain culture and quality, it is necessary for the admins to walk a fine line between exerting enough force to prevent newcomers or existing users from shifting the culture into an undesired direction and being hands-off enough to avoid stifling the users. the site admins handle teh balance well enough. I am one of teh janitors, so you may think that because of that I am biased towards the staff. however, the reason I volunteer to be a janitor and clean up teh CP and teh spambots and teh soyjaks is because I love heyuri for what it is and because I believe in staff-sama's vision for what it should be! sorry for teh longpost but my earnest feelings got in the way ( ´ω`) REPLY No. 65397 >If a thread sucks like you said, then naturally it wouldn't receive any bumps That's not true at all - any experience with a laissez-faire website will prove that theory wrong very quickly The only reason Heyuri is any different to ur average imageboard website today is cuz all the usual dreary crap & party-p00ping AIDS gets autosage'd/CSS hax'd/removed by Heyuri staff-san The internet is a big toilet - if u don't flush it occasionally, it just fills up with p00p (and not teh hawt kind) FROM THREAD No. 65428 Is pic rel considered teh rule 8 b0rkage? (Image: "Zoomies are afraid of empty rooms. Sad!") CONTEXT: Post on /b/ about the backrooms; people complained about zoomers REPLY No. 65429 Yup, as were several other replies in that thread I think we should just baleet these crappy "backrooms" threads in future since we've already had several of them in teh past, and it only seems to invite AIDS. ... Just to clarify, the AIDS I'm referring to is the argumentative "I hate people younger than me on the internet" 4chan retards taking everything too seriously, crapping up threads with "smug" retorts, bringing up and/or whining about tranny crap for no reason, not-at-all-subtle references to nu-4chan memes, etc. At least one of the users posting that crap is a frequent rule 7/8 breaker hellbent on making Heyuri threads as shitty and unfun as possible at every opportunity. They suck, and not in a hawt way FROM THREAD No. 65300 Ok, now why was this thread deleted? (I'm not the OP btw, just the replier). Is making fun of blacks now political? (Image: "White spider man proved himself stronger than the black one... the white spider man was the one to defeat supervillains) CONTEXT: Same OP. REPLY No. 65304 >I also want to know why it got removed 1. It's a thinly-veiled "whites > blacks" thread 2. It was made shortly after one (or more) users had already been B& over 9000 times for posting Rule 7 crap - a recurring trend lately that both kaguya and I had independently noticed and been attempting to mitigate (to little avail, clearly) 3. kaguya flipped a coin on whether to delete it or autosage it, and "delete it" won so he deleted it Regarding the reason why we sometimes avoid commenting on these kinds of "why was x deleted/banned" posts - it's because lately a certain user (or users) have repeatedly been trying to stir up trouble using the following routine: 1. Make an obviously and intentionally rule-breaking post (such as posting /pol/ material, bringing up trans crap, being an asshole towards other Heyuri users, etc.) that gets rightfully deleted and/or gets the user banned 2. (Optional) Repeatedly repost the rule-breaking post (or something similar to it) over and over by using a VPN/Tor, getting banned and having their posts deleted each time 3. Complain on Site Discussion that their post has been unjustly removed or that they've been unfairly banned, demanding an explanation (also capitalizing on any mistake that the staff-san may have made while frantically trying to play whack-a-mole with the rule-breaker, plus posts from other users who are wondering what's going on) 4. Deny any wrongdoing, often by using the fact their post is longer readable to their advantage 5. Claim "the mods" (o hai 4chan!) are "too strict", "unjust", "going rogue", "on their period", "getting pissy", etc. 6. Comb through anything that Heyuri staff-san posts in response (having made the critical error of feeding the troll) to find "gotchas", using their willingness to communicate and desire to be transparent against them 7. Return to start This has happened more times than I could count now - often by the same handful of repeat rulebreakers who are seemingly on some kind of personal mission to force their miserable crap onto Heyuri. It's freaking tiring, and rarely worth the hassle of responding to - especially if the user(s) you'd be responding to were posting in bad faith to begin with I wanna spend my time on Heyuri having fun - making posts and working on kewl OC & new site features, while helping to clean up the occasional spam and drive-by rulebreakers - and that's mostly how things were until relatively recently. But these days I'm having to deal with this retarded time-wasting crap from disingenuous butth0les on a near-daily basis, otherwise Heyuri gets inundated with rule-breaking posts and loses the thing that makes it special - the absence of nu-internet garbage ---- NOTES FROM IRC CHAT ---- From my own experience, you don't have to learn "how to moderate." I'm not sure how heyuri does it, but screamer wiki mods were just given the tools, normally automatically, and just told to moderate in accordance to the rules, and things would be corrected if something was done wrong. Don't worry about it but it's nice to see more mods there